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Postby Wayne S. Noches on 14 Jan 2018 13:18

Op-Ed: What the 'Dreamer' fight is really about

From the LA Times...
Democrats are so focused on the 800,000 Dreamers — less than 10% of the undocumented population — because they’re politically photogenic and for now seen as the easiest group to exempt from efforts to control illegal immigration. In blanket fashion, the media consistently report that they are model youth, fulfilling their proverbial “dreams” of finishing college and achieving upward mobility.

That narrative lacks subtlety, if it’s not outright deceptive. The average age of DACA participants is now 24. Few after entering adulthood sought to address their known illegal status. Surveys suggest that most are not in school; fewer than 5% have graduated from college. Those employed earn a median hourly wage of $15.34, which means they are forced to compete on the lower end of the wage ladder. Only about a tenth of 1% of DACA youth serve in the U.S. military — fewer than 900 total.

Setting aside the reality of the Dreamer pool, the Democrats’ method of fighting for DACA suggests that they are broadly in favor of letting immigration dysfunction continue apace. Why else would they refuse to give President Trump any significant concessions in the DACA negotiations — no wall, no end to chain migration, no cessation of visa lotteries?

They know that if this generation of Dreamers gets a pass without broader reform, it will be followed by another and another, all expecting the same eventual exemptions.

Democrats once used to talk about ending outright illegal immigration. They worried that it put downward pressure on wages. They thought it eroded union efforts and sapped political support among Democrats’ blue-collar base, while overtaxing finite social services to the detriment of the American underclass.

In the current age of identity politics, a new generation of progressive Democrats has recalibrated mass illegal immigration as a godsend. Over the last 20 years, it has vastly expanded the Latino vote as well as empowered ethnic tribunes. Immigration has galvanized minority registration in general and encouraged bloc voting. One tangible result is that the American Southwest is slowly turning blue, or at least purple.

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Postby pod on 14 Jan 2018 16:27

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It's a votes game. The Dems know their platform is a losing one. Decades of scolding and making fun of the flyover set finally bit them in the ass in 2016. Now more than ever, they know that they have to import voters. Wouldn't you want to be nice to the people who bought you to the United States from whatever pest-hole you're escaping from?

And yes, I'm keenly aware Republicans play the same game with people who were born here and also people who came here legally. Look how the Cuban vote usually goes Republican, since the Republicans bend over backwards to keep the embargoes in place, etc.

As for DACA? If my parents jumped the fence at Disney World with me in tow, and they got caught, I'd expect to be thrown out, too.
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Postby JMT on 18 Jan 2018 13:55

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Postby coach on 19 Jan 2018 14:53

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I'm not really sure that the article is correct about the positive impact on Democratic votes. Immigration policy is really what lost the 2016 Presidential election for them.
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Postby pod on 19 Jan 2018 17:52

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coach wrote:I'm not really sure that the article is correct about the positive impact on Democratic votes. Immigration policy is really what lost the 2016 Presidential election for them.


One of many reasons, aside from the decades of scolding and finger-wagging.
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Postby JMT on 22 Jan 2018 12:30

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Surge in Dreamers losing DACA freedom for crimes and gang violence

It confirms that the DACA screening process was woefully inadequate.
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Postby JMT on 05 Feb 2018 18:28

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Postby pod on 05 Feb 2018 19:50

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Again, if you're gonna advocate for open borders, you gotta support the absolute right to self-defense by any means necessary. While nothing in life is certain, if you're just gonna let everyone in, the resident population needs to be able to defend themselves, just in case. Even though yeah most people coming in are harmless.
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