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Postby pod on 23 Jun 2016 07:47

Brexit vote is today

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu- ... m-36602702

Voting is under way in a historic referendum on whether the UK should remain a member of the European Union or leave.
A record 46,499,537 people are entitled to take part, according to provisional figures from the Electoral Commission.
Polling stations opened at 07:00 BST and will close at 22:00 BST.


We don't have a horse in this race, so our opinion matters not. But it's interesting to watch nonetheless. The one-world-government types are all anxious though.
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Postby pod on 24 Jun 2016 00:09

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Holy cow. It's pretty dang intense.

Frankly I find the whole thing quite interesting.
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Postby TechJunkie on 24 Jun 2016 00:28

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Brexit Wins As The UK Votes To Leave EU In Historic Referendum

Remain campaigners hang a large banner from Westminster Bridge as they try to disrupt a flotilla of fishing vessels campaigning to leave the European Union.
The United Kingdom will exit the European Union, as a majority of British voters chose “leave” over “remain” in the country’s EU referendum on Thursday, the BBC projected. The result plunges Britain into an uncertain future, with both serious and immediate political and economic ramifications.

The “leave” campaign took a surprising early lead hours after the polls closed, and edged further ahead as the counting continued. With “leave” leading, the British pound plummeted to the lowest in 31 years, the The Associated Press reported. U.S. financial markets were expected to open sharply lower.

“The dawn is breaking on an independent United Kingdom,” said Nigel Farage, the anti-EU leader of the U.K. Independence Party. “Let June 23 go down in our history as our independence day.”

The U.K. will now enter into a two-year negotiation with the EU on how its exit will be handled, although it could take even longer. The country is bracing for market turmoil and a potential large scale depreciation in the value of the British pound. Focus also turns to Prime Minister David Cameron, who urged Britons to “remain” and is likely to face pressure to resign following the “leave” result.
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Postby coach on 24 Jun 2016 01:59

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As an American, former chattel of the Great Imperialistic Britain, whose forebearers shed the blood of thousands and spent millions to throw off their rule, I find it highly ironic that they are not complaining about the EXACT same thing, taxation without representation. Yeah, how's it feel now? After all the peoples you oppressed, who had to send their children off to war against you in order to get their freedom, you just end up taking a little vote. Woo.

That being said, remember that this vote is only ceremonial. It is not at all binding. Parliament has the last say. It'll be interesting to see how that goes.
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Postby coach on 24 Jun 2016 02:05

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Speaking of irony, who was it that recently voted on leaving Great Britain but was prevented from doing so?
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Postby pod on 24 Jun 2016 08:10

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Scotland had a referendum, and the majority of their people chose to say. No one except themselves prevented them from doing so.

As for Brexit, last night's vote wasn't just ceremonial, it was the start of a process.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028

Cameron resigned since things didn't go his way. He took a gamble (He's a Remain fan) and lost.

He would attempt to "steady the ship" over the coming weeks and months, but that it would be for the new prime minister to carry out negotiations with the EU and invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, which would give the UK two years to negotiate its withdrawal, he said.


So basically he's like "Fuck you, let the next guy deal with the withdrawal..." - the next guy comes along before October.

Then he contradicts himself.

"The British people have voted to leave the European Union and their will must be respected," said Mr Cameron. "The will of the British people is an instruction that must be delivered."


The EU sock-puppets just want them to get it over with...

EU chiefs said they expected the UK to begin negotiations to leave "as soon as possible, however painful that process may be".



However, in a way, you are right, it's not legally binding.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... parliament

However, Cameron basically went back on his word....

If the British public votes on Thursday for Brexit it will be in the hands of Cameron to decide when to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, which represents formal notification of any decision to leave. The prime minister has said he would have to trigger it immediately after a vote, although this might have been a way of emphasising that there would be no going back, to people thinking of voting leave.



So right now, the will of the majority of the UK subjects is to 'Leave'. Cameron said he was going to abide by it, but now he's basically reneging on his promise and letting the next guy worry about it.


The big-government types are crying about it though.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu- ... m-36614643

Joe Biden, US Vice President
"We would have preferred a different outcome."


Of course you would. You masturbate to bureaucracy.

Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany
"We take note of the British people's decision with regret. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe and to the European unification process."
Ms Merkel said that because of its history, Germany has "a particular interest and a particular responsibility" to make European unity a success.


Of course you want a "unified Europe..." Ein Reich...

Andrzej Duda, President of Poland
"One must do everything to prevent other countries from leaving."


Wow, passive-aggressive much?



My opinion? If the UK citizens want out, they must be allowed to go. I don't see a huge problem with them leaving. The UK was a world power prior to full EU membership, and they will still be without it.

The EU, despite their "fine, leave!" attitude, is scared. They don't want other countries getting ideas. Germany seems particularly disturbed.
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Postby pod on 24 Jun 2016 08:17

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But still, this is actually the most interesting thing on the news right now.
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Postby pod on 24 Jun 2016 08:20

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The Norks on Brexit:





Oh, if only!
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Postby JMT on 24 Jun 2016 08:30

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I suspect that page isn't actually run by the Norks.
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Postby pod on 24 Jun 2016 08:30

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A friend of a friend bought this up on Facebook. Cameron originally said that he would support the will of the UK subjects and activate Article 50 since he, as well as a lot of other people (even those who supported Leave) thought that Leave would never happen. So in his mind, saying that was a safe bet. Cameron urged for Remain, by the way.

When the result was Leave, he and the others were caught by surprise. Even the UK Independence Party was shocked. They were giving up around 6 PM our time, but as the night rolled on, they suddenly realized they might just win...that's when things got interesting.

Leave was a longshot. A lot of people felt safe by saying they supported the results of the referendum since they didn't count on it actually amounting to anything.
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