Catalonia gets to vote on independence on November 9th

Catalonia vote: 80% back independence - officials

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29982960

Everyone knows Catalonia wants out. Unlike Scotland, it's not even a matter up for debate. So, faced with a vote for independence that would prove costly to their government, the Spanish put politics over people. What started out as an "official" vote ended up being merely "symbolic". The Spanish courts ruled that the Catalan votes don't matter, that nobody's vote counts, because voting for independece is "illegal".....LOL. They thought this would discourage the Catalans and finally make the problem go away.

They were wrong. The Catalans showed up anyway and voted....and 80% of them have cast a ballot for independence. Their voice has been heard, the will of the Catalan people has been expressed. Spain, of course, denies the legality of the vote and will simply ignore the will of the people.

Is war coming?

Is war coming?

Another step in that direction....

http://www.dw.de/spanish-prosecutors-fi ... a-18079986

The difference between the two....

And it's on like Donkey Kong. Just got back from Spain yesterday. The country is a tinder box. Just wait until the images of 90 year old ladies being bludgeoned by militarized police hit the news feeds, all because they wanted to exercise a vote. Whatever the results of the vote is, Catalonia has won.

It's a tricky issue with high emotions on both sides.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41461032



However, I do believe the Spanish government is going about it the wrong way. What's the problem with letting them vote? You can figure out the details later.

Innocent mistakes....

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Wow....just wow.....

Catalan police officers protecting Catalan voters from the Spanish military police

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The local authorities are more in tune with what the population wants.

LOL!!!!!

Russian propagandists scored a victory in Spain this weekend after “boldly injecting fake news and disinformation” into the debate over Catalonian independence and seemingly influencing the election results, according to U.S. information warfare experts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ialnetwork

90% voted in favor of independence. Damn those Russians are good.

The more destabilized other countries are, the more likely they are to turn a blind eye to Russia doing things like waging war and taking over entire countries.

Russia shot down a civilian jetliner in a war and killed 298 people two years ago, then proceeded to take over half of Ukraine. The world basically ignored it -- nobody did anything because they didn't want to mess with Putin.

Basically if Russia is trying to influence you to do something, it's likely in your best interests to do the opposite.

What's next, Quebec going to try and go independent and secede from Canada again?

LOL!!!!!

Russian propagandists scored a victory in Spain this weekend after “boldly injecting fake news and disinformation” into the debate over Catalonian independence and seemingly influencing the election results, according to U.S. information warfare experts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ialnetwork

90% voted in favor of independence. Damn those Russians are good.

I don't know how much influence the Russians could of played into the election. Basically Catalonians have been attempting to secede from Spain for sometime now. Most experts around the Globe knew the vote would be in favor or Independence.

What people didn't expect was the reaction from the Spanish Government towards the folks initiating the vote.

If Texas or California would try to seced the United States, I believe the United States Government would do anything and even use force to stop such an attempt. We can cry foul on the Spanish Government, but our Government would of done the same or something like it.