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Postby slamminshaun on 08 Jul 2016 08:55

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What happened in Dallas was horrible, but not at all surprising. Nothing excuses the killing of innocent cops, but when so many innocent civilians are killed by cops almost daily, this was bound to happen eventually. That's not excusing the crime, but explaining it. There is a huge difference. Read through this thread. It was just a matter of time before someone took the law into their own hands.

Problem is....now that this has happened, cops will escalate their behavior even further against civilians, which means more of it will be caught on film for other civilians to see, and that means more civilians will choose to ambush innocent cops. The end result will be a never-ending escalation of hostility between cops and civilians. It's only going to get worse.
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Postby TechJunkie on 08 Jul 2016 09:59

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Are you the guy who was talking about how America had been asking for it on September 12, 2011?
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Postby pod on 08 Jul 2016 10:01

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slamminshaun wrote:What happened in Dallas was horrible, but not at all surprising. Nothing excuses the killing of innocent cops, but when so many innocent civilians are killed by cops almost daily, this was bound to happen eventually. That's not excusing the crime, but explaining it. There is a huge difference. Read through this thread. It was just a matter of time before someone took the law into their own hands.

Problem is....now that this has happened, cops will escalate their behavior even further against civilians, which means more of it will be caught on film for other civilians to see, and that means more civilians will choose to ambush innocent cops. The end result will be a never-ending escalation of hostility between cops and civilians. It's only going to get worse.


The cops in Dallas were essentially non-combatants. Three were transit cops even.

Remember though, there have been recent targeted killings of police officers in response to police abuse of minorities. The two officers killed in late 2014 in NYC come to mind. And I'm sure plenty of officer-involved shootings where the official cause was "gang", could be linked to what's going on.

This isn't new by any means. Though the media sells it as such.

The one thing I'm taking exception to that CNN is blabbering about is the comparison to 9/11 - "deadliest day for police since 9/11"

Way to go, assholes. Using the memory of 9/11 as clickbait.
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Postby slamminshaun on 08 Jul 2016 12:45

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TechJunkie wrote:Are you the guy who was talking about how America had been asking for it on September 12, 2011?


Are you the guy who said "hyperbole, black helicopters, Alex Jones" on September 10, 2001?
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Postby coach on 08 Jul 2016 12:50

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This withholding of information about the captured suspects is pretty nerve-wracking.
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Postby pod on 08 Jul 2016 13:33

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coach wrote:This withholding of information about the captured suspects is pretty nerve-wracking.


http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/0 ... spect.html

Micah X Johnson. Former US Army Reserve. I'll just leave that one there.
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Postby slamminshaun on 08 Jul 2016 14:51

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pod wrote:Micah X Johnson. Former US Army Reserve. I'll just leave that one there.


But I won't. Allahu Akbar!

Suspect "Micah X. Johnson" is named after Malcolm X., a Founding Member of the Nation of Islam

Among the five suspects now in Dallas Police custody are self described "Islamic Americans" who attended a Nation of Islam mosque in the South Dallas area.


http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/07 ... /1587.html
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Postby pod on 08 Jul 2016 15:10

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I think the Malcolm X homage is a bit of a stretch on the part of the writer. However, he has been caught on camera hanging with black power activists. Did those groups urge him to do this?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-0 ... ecially-wh

Right now I can't come to any specific conclusions. Nor is it confirmed that these other guys in custody had anything to do with it.

Johnson spent six years in the sandbox where he was trained in military tactics by the government. While I don't think he was a specialist of any sort (he's listed as PFC, which basically means he was most likely a REMF at best) he undoubtedly learned a few things.

Even a soldier fresh out of boot camp can wreak havoc on an unprepared group of people.
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Postby slamminshaun on 09 Jul 2016 09:42

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Portsmouth, Virginia police department recruitment video. Skip to 1:30 and you can begin to understand why there are so many "isolated incidents". Videos like this basically say "hey, all you tough guys who couldn't get laid in high school, want to dress up like GI Joe and beat up on civilians?"

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Postby coach on 11 Jul 2016 14:19

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What is the NRA saying about the Dallas shooting?

I think the most interesting part of this is that the Founding Fathers who created the 2nd Amendment were very concerned by two things for their new little country, and this is why they wanted to institutionalize a well-trained militia that anyone could be part of. Their first concern was invasion or re-invasion by outside forces, a concern validated when the British re-invaded in 1812. The second being the takeover of the government by authoritarians who would erode the rights just so recently hard-fought won.
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