NOAA buying 46,000 rounds of ammo

Conspiracy theories thrive on a combination of editorial bias and people who are willing to believe. Congratulations for becoming a willing pawn in that game.

Conspiracy theories thrive on a combination of editorial bias and people who are willing to believe. Congratulations for becoming a willing pawn in that game.

Pawns on both sides of the game, your just drinking a different flavored kool aid... Either way, even if its 1/4 of what they say it is, I find it alarming that a domestic government agency is buying up so much deadly ammo, thats just my 3 cents.

This is hilarious. I claimed (in support of JMT's accurate claim) a bunch of odd govermment agencies are buying tons of ammunition, because....well, it's true. You and Dade did not think it was true, figuring it was a conspiracy theory. Then, I proved they are with government documents. And if you look back at the posts, that was the focus of all my posts....was it true or not? Are they buying ammo or not? Period, end of story. But somehow you and Dade see a secret hidden meaning and agenda behind them. LOL! And you make fun of Alex Jones?

Nobody doubted that DHS was buying ammo. What we disputed, and what you have not proven, was your claim that they are buying 750,000,000 rounds immediately for some war on the American population. Nice twist though. Don't you have a flight to catch?

Nobody doubted that DHS was buying ammo.

LOL...Of course you didn't....

I did some asking around and a friend who works for the Federal Government told me that they are not....absolutely not......buying 750,000,000 rounds of ammo.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to go through 91 pages of that and add it all up, but I'm going to say no.

What we disputed, and what you have not proven, was your claim that they are buying 750,000,000 rounds immediately for some war on the American population. Nice twist though.

Twist? Do you have a quote to back that accusation up? You and TechJunkie keep saying that I claimed they're buying 750 million rounds of ammo to go to war against the people, but I can't find anything to that effect. I made brief mention of them buying ammo to shoot terrorists, since that is why DHS exists, but other than that the only thing I kept asking, over and over, was.....

Dade, is the DHS buying 750 million rounds of ammo or not?

Is Homeland Security buying 750 million rounds of ammo? Yes or no?

Is the story true or not?

But is the story true or not?

And your responses were....

I did some asking around and a friend who works for the Federal Government told me that they are not....absolutely not......buying 750,000,000 rounds of ammo.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to go through 91 pages of that and add it all up, but I'm going to say no.

Followed by....

Nobody doubted that DHS was buying ammo.

They're not buying ammo, but nobody doubted they're buying ammo, LOL!!

Shaun, you're not so stupid that you can't realize that discussing the issue in the first place endorses a conspiracist mentality. Don't pretend to be innocent. You're already familiar with the term "editorial bias", and you already know what it means, or else you really seriously do need a few lessons in media literacy.

I've been reading some recent scientific research on why people like you believe in conspiracy theories, and it's all pretty interesting. It has a lot to do with all of the stuff that we were talking about, about epistemology, belief systems, contradictions, Goedel's Incompleteness Theorems, etc.

One of the most fascinating recent scientific findings really resonates with what we see from you on a daily basis in this forum. Psychologists have discovered that people like you who are prone to believing in conspiracy theories will have no problem with believing in two different mutually conflicting theories. "Believing that Osama bin Laden is still alive is apparently no obstacle to believing that he has been dead for years." This is apparently because the core belief that drives this kind of thinking is an anti-authoritarian bias.

Officials are seen
as deceptive, perhaps even actively malevolent, so any explanation that they endorse is at a disadvantage, while alternative explanations are more credible from the start.

People guided by that core belief are prone to giving any conspiracy theory the benefit of the doubt, even when believing in the conspiracy theory directly conflicts with other beliefs.

In other words, people who are prone to believing in conspiracy theories adopt illogical conclusions because their anti-authoritarian bias dominates their ability to reason. Fear of the government wins out over logic.

From Scientific American:

On his Infowars.com Web site, [Alex] Jones headlines his page with “Because There Is a War on for Your Mind.” True enough, which is why science and reason must always prevail over fear and irrationality, and conspiracy mongering traffics in the latter at the expense of the former.

Shaun, you're not so stupid that you can't realize that discussing the issue in the first place endorses a conspiracist mentality.

When Homeland Security is buying 750 million rounds of ammunition, and Social Security is even stocking up on some....your position is, everyone should just ignore it. LOL!

It might be a bit early to break out the tin foil hats, but why does the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration need 46,000 rounds of hollowpoint ammunition?

JMT recognized how it could be construed, but he also recognized the question is completely legitimate. Why do these agencies need so much ammunition? If there's a legitimate answer, they should provide it. The fact that you view such questions as a "conspiracy talk" proves Mattivi right, you're just drinking a different kind of Kool Aid. You're at the opposite end of the spectrum from the conspiracy theorists, which makes you just as kooky. They don't accept any of government's official positions, whereas you accept all of them. It's debatable about which mindset is more dangerous.

JMT recognized how it could be construed, but he also recognized the question is completely legitimate. Why do these agencies need so much ammunition? If there's a legitimate answer, they should provide it.

You seem to have missed the explanation that was posted right here. NOAA has hundreds of armed law enforcement agents, and so does the Social Security Administration. And why on Earth would a law enforcement agency with 240,000 employees purchase as few as 1,000 rounds per year and as many as 291 rounds per employee per year? You consider all of the speculation surrounding this issue to be legitimate questions?

Your belief that authorities engage in deception overpowers your ability to engage in critical thinking. This study has your name written all over it. You have concluded that it's entirely feasible that NOAA is planning to go to war against Americans because of that fundamental bias. Your critical thinking skills are so clouded by that bias that you cited Iranian state media, because you know that "the truth is out there".

You have concluded that it's entirely feasible that NOAA is planning to go to war against Americans because of that fundamental bias.

I'm sure you have a quote of mine to that effect?

You cited an article written by the Islamic Republic of Iran that asks the "legitimate" question of whether NOAA is buying ammunition to assist the Social Security Adminstration to suppress welfare riots. Your inherent fear-of-authority bias nicely synergies with their hate-America bias.

You cited an article written by the Islamic Republic of Iran that asks the "legitimate" question of whether NOAA is buying ammunition to assist the Social Security Adminstration to suppress welfare riots. Your inherent fear-of-authority bias nicely synergies with their hate-America bias.

Ok, I think I got it now. Iran concluded it, therefore the Slammer must have concluded it too. Guilty by association. So I guess I better start reading more of Iran's conclusions because I've been forgetting what mine are lately. Ahmadinejad and the Slammer, two peas in a pod.