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Postby TechJunkie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:24 pm

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There are over 31,000 redacted requisition forms on the FBO web site. I know that because I looked, not because of bias. So this information that's bouncing around the conspiracy theory echo chamber on more than 50,000 patriot web sites is not what I consider to be "truth". Your standards may vary.
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Postby slamminshaun on Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:37 pm

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Is it true, is it true? You bet your ass it's true...on American soil no less....

A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI, Secret Service agents and police in Virginia’s Chesterfield County questioned him Thursday evening about what they said were ominous posts talking about a coming revolution.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

The posts I read that supposedly were of concern were libertarian-type posts I see all the time,” he said. The big concern, Whitehead said, is whether government officials are monitoring citizens’ private Facebook pages and detaining people with whom they disagree.


In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub’s explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days’ further confinement.


Police and FBI agents arrived at Raub’s home, asking to speak with him about his Facebook posts. They did not provide Raub with a search warrant. Raub was cooperative and agreed to speak with them. Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will.
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Postby Dade on Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:23 pm

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slamminshaun wrote:Is it true, is it true? You bet your ass it's true...on American soil no less....

A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI, Secret Service agents and police in Virginia’s Chesterfield County questioned him Thursday evening about what they said were ominous posts talking about a coming revolution.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

The posts I read that supposedly were of concern were libertarian-type posts I see all the time,” he said. The big concern, Whitehead said, is whether government officials are monitoring citizens’ private Facebook pages and detaining people with whom they disagree.


In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub’s explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days’ further confinement.


Police and FBI agents arrived at Raub’s home, asking to speak with him about his Facebook posts. They did not provide Raub with a search warrant. Raub was cooperative and agreed to speak with them. Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will.


I am just so sure that those quotes are an accurate reflection of the entire record on that story and not just a cherry-picked sampling of the ones that reinforce your narrative.
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Postby TechJunkie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:11 pm

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Shaun's latest "factual information" is based on the word of a person who has been Baker Acted. Has anybody other than myself participated in Baker Acting an insane person? It's an interesting experience.

Let's take a step back and think about the kinds of crazy blogs that could be written by taking things that mental patients say at face value. That's what Shaun considers to be a credible source. We would have to conclude that the US government has little green men in custody after capturing them at Area 51, and that we all need to wear tin foil hat to protect us from the government mind-control rays, and all of that other stuff on Alex Jones' web sites.

Brandon J. Raub wrote:Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads.


If your standards for credible sources are so low that this guy qualifies, then you can conclude pretty much anything that you want. There is probably a guy in the padded cell next to him who is convinced that Abraham Lincoln is trying to assassinate him to get revenge for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. The government doesn't want you to believe it, so it must be true.

Shaun falls for anything that he sees on any blog if it reinforces his pre-existing monological belief system. He considers Iranian anti-American propaganda to be "factual information" when it says what he wants to hear. He'll go so far as not questioning a mental patient who has been involuntarily committed as long as the guy says what Shaun wants to hear. Shaun is more likely to believe a second-hand account from a mental patient than all of the police, FBI agents, psychologists and nurses who were directly involved. Because those people were obviously ALL part of the conspiracy. Shaun questions the judgement of the dozens of people who participated in the detainment of this guy, because of what Alex Jones said. Shaun would rather believe that the jackbooted thugs in black helicopters silenced a rational whistleblower and detained him as a political prisoner.

I read some fascinating research over the weekend on the resiliency of monological belief systems. People like Shaun who are prone to believing in conspiracy theories are able to twist the lack of evidence into evidence. In their minds, anyway. There are a lot of parallels between true believers of conspiracy theories, and religious believers. If a person is willing to take the lack of evidence of a conspiracy as evidence of a conspiracy, or the ravings of an insane person as credible information, then there just isn't much that anybody can do to convince them otherwise. Religious convictions don't depend on logic or reason either. Religious convictions and conspiracy theories are both perpetuated by monological belief systems that ignore dissenting ideas because the central conclusions are predetermined.
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Postby slamminshaun on Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:37 pm

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Ok, it's time for the Slammer to go for the jugular....

From the right-wing Alex Jones infiltrated website, Huffington Post....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2 ... 17484.html

Of course, this isn't the first time government goons have locked people up in mental hospitals for exposing the truth....from the TechJunkie-approved Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft

And how about this guy?

Held In A Psychiatric Ward & Called “Delusional” For Saying 9/11 Was An Inside Job


http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/incar ... nside-job/

Oh, and let's not forget this one....

When Congress decided to squelch the truth about the CIA's advance warnings about 9/11 and the existence of a comprehensive peace option with Iraq, as the CIA's chief Asset covering Iraq, I became an overnight threat. To protect their cover-up scheme, I got locked in federal prison inside Carswell Air Force Base, while the Justice Department battled to detain me "indefinitely" up to 10 years, without a hearing or guilty plea.


http://digitaljournal.com/blog/14311

But I'm not done yet....

The government has established a shadowy new national anti-terrorist unit to protect VIPs, with the power to detain suspects indefinitely using mental health laws.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... squad.html

Flawless victory! :D
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Postby TechJunkie on Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:54 pm

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I have personally participated many times in the State of Florida locking people up in mental institutions involuntarily. I recall tackling a naked lady and restraining her one time so that the cops could get the zip ties on her. It's funny to imagine how authorityphobes could have distorted that incident. I can imagine the blog headlines. "Woman detained by the government without charges!" "Government crackdown on nudity!" Of course, she was delusional and literally foaming at the mouth, but if you leave out certain details then it becomes a completely different story. And if people are more interested in that other story than in the truth, then you end up with millions of people believing that there is a government conspiracy against nudity. A bunch of mental health care professionals and a judge can all concur that a patient needs to be Baker Acted, but that little detail can be easily swept under the rug by people who are looking for any shred to reinforce their predetermined world views.
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Postby slamminshaun on Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:57 pm

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Russian psychiatrists famously aided Stalin in applying fake insanity diagnoses to political dissenters

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
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Postby Dade on Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:13 am

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slamminshaun wrote:Ok, it's time for the Slammer to go for the jugular....

Of course, this isn't the first time government goons have locked people up in mental hospitals for exposing the truth....from the TechJunkie-approved Wikipedia...

Held In A Psychiatric Ward & Called “Delusional” For Saying 9/11 Was An Inside Job


So, you also believe 9/11 was an inside job, Shaun? That's your example of someone exposing the truth? This just keeps getting better.
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Postby TechJunkie on Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:23 am

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I think that the standard Shaun response will be to feign an incredulous reaction and point out that he never (directly) asserted any such thing. And he'll pull out a bunch of his own quotes as he retreats from that, to prove it.
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Postby slamminshaun on Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:50 am

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Dade wrote:
slamminshaun wrote:Ok, it's time for the Slammer to go for the jugular....

Of course, this isn't the first time government goons have locked people up in mental hospitals for exposing the truth....from the TechJunkie-approved Wikipedia...

Held In A Psychiatric Ward & Called “Delusional” For Saying 9/11 Was An Inside Job


So, you also believe 9/11 was an inside job, Shaun? That's your example of someone exposing the truth? This just keeps getting better.


I've seen no evidence that convinces me that 9/11 was an inside job. With that said, I support everyone's right to say it was an inside job without having to fear they'll be locked up in a mental hospital by the government. You don't have to agree with someone's conspiracy theories to support their right to promote them.
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