So sorry Arizona

Because, that is the principle that America was founded on, Dade. You can come here and be free to be what you want.

And an "official language" is only an integral part of a fascist regime.

Why do we all have to be ONE culture? Where the fuck does the Constitution say that? The GREAT thing about America is you are free to do your own thing, have your own culture, you do not have to be a slave to anyone else's culture. What the hell is wrong with that?

Sort of. By coming here in the first place you are saying that you wish to partake in this great experiment. When you become a citizen, you take the following oath:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

In many cases, immigrants come here with the agenda to advance some cause in the country they left. For example, the Cuban American population in Miami exerts great influence on their elected officials designed to affect change in Cuba. Because they see themselves as Cubans first and American second, they use their sacred vote to advance an agenda in the country they left.

The American Jewish community is one of the worst at this. American Jews routinely support only politicians that they see as supportive of Israel, often to their own detriment and that of Americans.

The founders you speak of shed real blood to create this country. I think that they would agree with you that people should be free to be who they want but they would not agree that they should not think first of the collective American good.

Because, that is the principle that America was founded on, Dade. You can come here and be free to be what you want.

And an "official language" is only an integral part of a fascist regime.

Why do we all have to be ONE culture? Where the fuck does the Constitution say that? The GREAT thing about America is you are free to do your own thing, have your own culture, you do not have to be a slave to anyone else's culture. What the hell is wrong with that?

I don't get you. You say that we should not have ONE culture and you also admit that people come here to be free; that's ONE culture, the culture of freedom. The people I am referring to are the ones that act so "free" that they infringe upon my rights. That's not freedom.

Why do we all have to be ONE culture? Where the fuck does the Constitution say that? The GREAT thing about America is you are free to do your own thing, have your own culture, you do not have to be a slave to anyone else's culture. What the hell is wrong with that?

Honor killings, arranged marriages, female circumcision, no deodorant... all great additions to our culture.

Because, that is the principle that America was founded on, Dade. You can come here and be free to be what you want.

And an "official language" is only an integral part of a fascist regime.

Why do we all have to be ONE culture? Where the fuck does the Constitution say that? The GREAT thing about America is you are free to do your own thing, have your own culture, you do not have to be a slave to anyone else's culture. What the hell is wrong with that?

I don't get you. You say that we should not have ONE culture and you also admit that people come here to be free; that's ONE culture, the culture of freedom. The people I am referring to are the ones that act so "free" that they infringe upon my rights. That's not freedom.

Well, shit, that doesn't make any sense. There are TONS of native-borns that infringe upon other people's rights, too. So, how is that relevant? Most immigrants come to make a better life for themselves.

In many cases, immigrants come here with the agenda to advance some cause in the country they left.

No, in a FEW cases, that is the situation. MOST immigrants just want a better life. You guys are blowing things way out of proportion.

In many cases, immigrants come here with the agenda to advance some cause in the country they left.

No, in a FEW cases, that is the situation. MOST immigrants just want a better life. You guys are blowing things way out of proportion.

Really, Coach? You have no clue what you're talking about on this one.

If it were not for the power of the Cuban vote in South Florida, we would not have maintained the incredibly stupid Cuban embargo for all this time, which would be of benefit to Cuba and America alike.

If it weren't for the American Jewish population and their powerful lobby, our policies toward Israel would be radically different.

Many Americans vote against their own self interest or that of the country because they seek redress of issues in their former country. To say otherwise is just factually wrong.

Why were people at protests carrying Mexican flags?

I'm all for immigration. As I said, both my parents were immigrants. I just believe that if you choose to come here, you should choose to commit to it.

Well, shit, that doesn't make any sense. There are TONS of native-borns that infringe upon other people's rights, too. So, how is that relevant? Most immigrants come to make a better life for themselves.

We're not debating about people living in this country legally. Yes, most immigrants come here to make a better life (that's the reason I am here); but we follow rules, we don't keep acting like we're back in our native countries trying to get away with anything we please so (which is how things work in most of Latin America). That's the problem in Arizona. The kidnappings, daily petty crime, and the fraud being committed by people who game the system. You don't live there, you don't see the daily dealings with people that are here illegally. They are very easy to spot to people that are from the area. This is the reason why so many people support this. It's not like in FL or anywhere in the East Coast where there is no immediate border. People commit crimes on this side and cross over to Mexico and they're back weeks later like nothing happened.

Coach, I think Dade trumps you here. Look around you, at all the non-citizens in Miami. Chances are they're here to advance some interest in the homeland, and they're gone in a few years. Clubland is awash with them. They're "students" or spoiled rich kids, they come to Miami to blow their brains out for a few years, and then they go home to assume their place in the upper-class power structure of their home country. With the exception of political refugees, most immigrants in Miami are very well-off and live like kings back home. I've been invited to plenty of them. "Come down to XXXXX, I've got plenty of spare bedrooms, you can crash here and do whatever the fuck you want..."

This issue gets even deeper than I thought. I was already firmly against this law, but I never thought about it like this....

Arizona has made it a state crime to violate federal law, that has never happened in the history of the country.

Andrew Naploitano is no Lefty Socialista either. The law is clearly unconstitutional. Only right-wing fucktards, like Icon, can't see that. I don't understand how anyone could think this wouldn't lead to wholesale racial and facial profiling.