05.30 | Steve Bug and Camea @ The Techno Loft

Jorge, your a good guy and love ya, but this is where this techno arrogance really chaps my ass. im not foolish enough to say that techno isnt a big influence on the edm scene now, it is. but in my opinion, and this is my own empirical observation, the rise of the whole minimal/techno movt across the broad spectrum of edm has also, ironically, has been one of the big factors in the decline of edm, on a whole. lets face it, it doenst make you move... girls like fun, party people like fun, your music isnt fun! only to you and the relatively scarce legions like you.

i cant sit thru a minimal/german tech set without wanting to find the nearest exit within an hour. hell, i went to the first few movements in detroit, and i never quite like that either. i was there the last time three years ago, and i was like nope, this shit is too boring, abstract, and it doesnt make me wanna move! ryan "caught on" to it, but not me. im a househead, and im sticking to it.

dont get me wrong i think the other big factor has just been a decline in quality productions across the board. there just doesnt seem to be that same brand of funky chunky groovy beats of yesteryear. you couple that with this techy sound that is pervading edm and its a pretty dull mix. who knows, it could be just that the younglings were raised mostly on hip hop and we are just on a downslope, but it is a pretty big coincidence that with the rise of this tech sound it seemed to mark the decline of edm as well. again there is a confluence of factors but this cant be ignored. i know for me personnally although i still enjoy the sound, it still doesnt have that sound and vibe it used to have. i would also like to say im also not trying to hate on techno and the music you so clearly love, im just pointing to fairly obvious observational fact(for me at least). who knows maybe im offbase.

i think the reason why LP didnt get on board as fast as others, is well, he was too busy sticking to a formula that has been working for him for several years. believe it or not some of us still love house music. sure the numbers arent quite what they used to, but as HTM has put it the place is still highly profitable. i dont think LP has really thrown his hands up in the air as much as maybe he just is going to take a calculated risk and roll the dice to see what happens. at any rate, ive listened to bug before and i actually like him he plays some sick beats, so i hope the booking goes well and it moves on to something bigger.

your so called techno dj's are playing house , your so called house djs are playing techno .. everyone wins imo. it doesn't matter what kind of dj you are if you are playing boring music its still boring music i don't care how techy it is. i think the problem there are not enough dj's taking risks and actually djing instead of playing track after track. i remember when dj's used to ride out mixes for a long time and blend tracks together to create a new track that you could maybe only heard in that moment. you would figure with the rise of technology people would try to push the envelope a bit more , but its unfortunate that for the most part it hasn't happened. i think it really comes down to people who haven't really seen where we came from to know where we are going. luciano and ricardo are all playing records that first inspired them when were coming up and these new kids are just playing whatever's hot on beatport atm for the most part. basically what im trying to say is you should dig a bit deeper and maybe go hear someone like a tenaglia or garnier and see what dj'ing is about. how to work a room , how to build tension , how to tease a record for fuckin hours and then drop it and watch a room explode. god forbid you play a record that is a few months old just play good music and don't be afraid to take risks. good music is timeless. listen to the old MURK , Warp , R&S , all that stuff has stood the test of time. will you be able to say that about some of stuff released now?

Ramon, ive seen DT a mulititude of times, numerous times for his marathon sessions at the old space(and nerve lounge ftw!) i love the guy, and im a big fan of tech-house genre, as OG has always been one of my faves also. i realize there is no such thing anymore as just 'house music" there is just mutations and hybrids of it. but overall i like a set that has more of a "house" feel to it.

your so called techno dj's are playing house , your so called house djs are playing techno ..

damn dude you beat me to the punch i was about to post the exact statement!

And Neil, the slow death of EDM has nothing to do with the rise of tech inspired music (actually i feel that's what's been keeping it afloat in the underground, but i digress). the slow death of edm is clearly attributable to the end of the pill popping scene of late 90's early 2000s. After the rave ordinances and the death of the huge rave parties accross the US, the big room edm events slowly faded away and it became a niche sound. it's like indie rock which will never die but is relegated the occasional festival or smaller intimate venues, not for the mainstream.

As the eternal apologist, I have to say one thing. It's put up or shut up time, kids. The club has gone out on a limb for you with this booking...

easy there tiger. steve bug was confirmed to play in mexico and b/c of the swine flu epidemic canceled the gig and was a last minute pickup for the camea party at space. this wasn't space going out of their way for the booking.

let's be honest here Dan, LP has pretty much given up, thrown his hands in the air and said fuck it i'll try anything at this juncture, let these techno kids have at it. It's great to finally see some big room tech guys at space (and believe me i'll be there to support) but this should've happened years ago and space miami has been so behind the curve its not even funny.

This isn't meant to be a hate space rant but i'm not gonna let anyone sing praises about space either, as though LP is bold and visionary with this booking. The credit for this party goes much further back, to people like Ramon, the Plot kids, We Love Techno guys, Musical Missionary, SoBe beats, etc... It's b/c of them we are going to hear techno at Space now, and anyone who doesn't realize that has been living under a rock for the past few years.

i gotta agree with Jorge here - i wanted to say the exact same thing to Pod's post when i saw it last night. Space is not taking on some big risk. if LP wants to take a chance on an alternative style of EDM then bookings like Bug are just par for the course. best case scenario is that Miami loves Steve Bug and LP realizes that you don't have to spend 40K on the Morillo's of the world to have good music at your club

secondly Steve Bug isn't techno. quite frankly i think techno would be the quickest way to drive that room into the ground. techno isn't fun for 99% of people. it's certainly not what Space needs to be playing in that room right now if this is going to be sustainable

Oh Hell Yeah!!! Can't wait...

And yes, PLEASE, put Bug on the patio for all to enjoy. I can see the faces now...

Wish we could we tried to arrange Bug for the patio but unfortunately they only want house and tribal outside in the patio and techno inside the loft.

Steve Bug doesn't play techno

your so called techno dj's are playing house , your so called house djs are playing techno ..

damn dude you beat me to the punch i was about to post the exact statement!

And Neil, the slow death of EDM has nothing to do with the rise of tech inspired music (actually i feel that's what's been keeping it afloat in the underground, but i digress). the slow death of edm is clearly attributable to the end of the pill popping scene of late 90's early 2000s. After the rave ordinances and the death of the huge rave parties accross the US, the big room edm events slowly faded away and it became a niche sound. it's like indie rock which will never die but is relegated the occasional festival or smaller intimate venues, not for the mainstream.

This is all very true, but one could say that even in its smaller capacity of today it is not even what it once was say 4-5 years ago, thats kind of what i was driving at.

If he isn't techno, why is he playing a techno party? FYI the party is "The Techno Loft".

Whatever he's playing, I know he's one of the guys the music squad drools over. Again, it's put up or shut up time.

Oh Hell Yeah!!! Can't wait...

And yes, PLEASE, put Bug on the patio for all to enjoy. I can see the faces now...

Wish we could we tried to arrange Bug for the patio but unfortunately they only want house and tribal outside in the patio and techno inside the loft.

Steve Bug doesn't play techno

yeah i dont get their argument for not having bug on the patio, he's meant for the patio. steve is a house dj thru and thru. he ain't that happy miami tribal house they want, but his record labels put out some of the best house on the planet.

Whatever he's playing, I know he's one of the guys the music squad drools over. Again, it's put up or shut up time.

one thing about Bug is he has a lot of across the board appeal. that's why i think he would work at Space. its not just the music kids that like him