Miami Beach fortifying up for Memorial Day Weekend.

I am not calling anybody racist. But, lets be honest here only because you have a friend/associate/neighbor that is black doesn't necessarily exclude you from it either.

Anyways, I am going to leave this thread alone.

Jimbo's being nice, I wouldn't put up with half the nonsense he does. My only beef really is that these party people have been given over a decade to make things right and they always pull the race card, which causes the City to back down and the tourists to take advantage of them backing down. Listen, if they want to come down and have a hip-hop music conference, that's fine. As a matter of fact I've often wondered why there isn't one. There's value and merit to the music, and maybe a "conference" would help the scene a little and make it more about the songs and the message rather than getting fucked up and taking dumps in planters.

Level, you're a decent sort of guy, why are you getting tangled up with these types of people anyways?

Racist? No way. I have friends across the whole racial/social/political spectrum.

Elitist? Sure, why not, if you need to call me something. MDW attracts a lower-class of patron to our area and it causes a lot of problems, and the groups organizing the events don't seem to care. They pull the race card, just like you have been doing. My remarks aren't racist, they're based in fact and on first-hand experience plus the accurate testimonies of people I know who live on the beach. Several people I (and you) know have been robbed, harassed, and assaulted as the result of these events continuing. Listen, I'm well aware WMC, the gay party weeks, and so on have their share of problems too, but the organizers of those events at least demonstrate a willingness to deal with their problems. The MDW promoters? Not really.

I know what I'm talking about, trust me. If you want to bring out the race card, please do, it'll just show you're using the weapon of last resort whenever this topic comes up. You know, some of the more vocal opponents of these events are black and Latin, right? It's not a race issue, it's a conduct issue. If your friends conducted themselves with a measure of civility, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I just don't see the point in a lot of their activities.

Why do they need to roam around in packs on scooters, cutting off legitimate pedestrian and automotive traffic? Why do they need to scream and holler at every remotely-feminine looking object within a 500 meter radius? Why do they need to yell at someone who might not fit their "urban" aesthetic as they walk by? Why do they have to damage some of our more historic properties? Why do they have to cruise aimlessly in circles for hours on end? Why do they have to cause nothing but issues to the host nightclubs? What are they looking to prove?

I'm half-tempted to go up to Atlanta Memorial Day Weekend with two or three of my friends. In my vehicle will be three loaded handguns, unregistered of course, a bale of marijuana, and cases of booze. I'll pull the 210 in front of Peachtree Plaza, blare your buddy Lil' Wayne's greatest hits over my sound system, and smoke the weed and drink the booze with my friends while screaming at every passerby and brandishing my firearms. I'm willing to bet the residents of Atlanta would not be amused. However, they seem to have no issue coming down here and doing the same.

Fact is, I'm right, and you're wrong. You don't live on the beach or conduct business on the beach. MDW has become more trouble than it's worth. You just see all this as "The Man" putting the people down. It's far from that. I'm all about a wild time, but not at the expense of the quality of life in the area.

Yes Podster! Been awhile since you went on a rankled diatribe, and though its still somewhat tamed and subdued to years past it was refreshing to see you flash a bit of your old self, bring it back!

Maybe because I'm not drinking as much I find more things irritating. MDW irritates the piss out of me. I would like to go to the Beach and take it easy on MDW but the crowds prevent that.

So because they are African-Americans and are into Hip Hop, they are considered thugs now? What, they are not allowed to ride a scooter around the Beach either?

Are we in the 1940's, some of you people are astonishing.

Thugs are thugs... i didn't distinguish a person's race or musical taste..... please get over yourself.

Pod if you want to go to the beach that weekend you can.
Just stay away from Ocean Drive and you shouldn't have
any problems. I mean do you ever even hang out on Ocean
Drive? I've been hanging out on Miami Beach for years, and
I rarely hang out on Ocean Drive. I've never been to Wet
Willies or Fat Tuesday. I've never been to Mango's, and I
know not to go there because it's expensive and it sucks.
I used to use the pull-up bars that are located at I think 9th
and Ocean so that I could get a fake pump before I hit the
beach, but that was it. Ocean Drive is mainly for tourists.
If you want a nice, laid-back spot on Miami Beach, I suggest
you check out the third street beach.

But the causeways are still hosed. Not fun.

"KILL... KILL... KILL... THE WHITE MAN!"

I am not calling anybody racist. But, lets be honest here only because you have a friend/associate/neighbor that is black doesn't necessarily exclude you from it either.

Anyways, I am going to leave this thread alone.

Tell me what I said that was racist, you jackass. Tell me. Because I think tough guys on scooters are funny? I'd say the same thing about big biker rednecks on scooters. I'm sorry, no matter what color or genre a tough guy on a scooter is, that shit is funny, I don't care who you are.

Hell, I didn't even say it was annoying, I just said it was funny. Now, you tell me where I said something racist, or admit you fucked up.

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