its over man!

wow, blacks are really RE-taking (swank edit ) over house.... what's next, hockey?... lol


haha... actually i never cared for the original... but i like this version!

wow, blacks are really taking over house.... what's next, hockey?... lol


haha... actually i never cared for the original... but i like this version!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxuEl8qkErs&feature=fvw

Edward....I gotta tell you.....there's one thing that you're consistent about....and that is your ability to keep putting your foot in your mouth.

'Blacks' are not taking over house....they already owned it. Do some homework/research as I don't have the time to tell you the whole campfire story but the basics are that dance music (as you know it) originates from the Black Culture and it's music....not Norwegian Vikings.

I think what you meant to say was....."those 'white' guys in the label boardrooms are trying to mix the successfully selling black music into the under performing white produced dance music".....so they could sell more 'rekkids'.


oh and the hockey reference...here ya go - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ic ... an_descent

jeeze, chill swanky danky... its just jokes baby.. jokes...

you sound like the dude from "be cool"

The first modern house DJs were black guys who played for gay black and Latin audiences in seedy warehouses in New York (Paradise Garage) and Chicago (The Warehouse).

As a matter of fact, those two clubs lent their names to the styles of music played. "Garage" really isn't that short-lived crap from London, it referred to the style that the Paradise Garage's resident, Larry Levan, played.

"House", in it's original form, was the music played by Frankie Knuckles at his club in Chicago, The Warehouse. I'm too lazy to look it up but the music was such a phenomenon in Chicago, that bars put up signs saying "We play 'Warehouse' music", as a gimmick. A lot people liked the music, but weren't able to, or weren't keen on the idea of going to a black gay club to hear it. So, other places aped the sound and advertised it. Eventually somewhere it got shortened to "House".

And this is why I don't expect much in the way of girls at house events. You're lucky they show up at all considering the music's origins.

And house spawned techno, which was championed by three black guys from Detroit.

The "white" aspect of dance music came about when disco was driven off the charts and it's successors, including house, were driven out of mainstream clubs and into underground joints, and more importantly for the purposes of this conversation, to Europe, where the largely white audiences of clubs took a shine to it, along with those clubs resident DJs and producers. Which then got modified and regurgitated into things like trance, "UK Hard House", gabber, newer techno, and unfortunately things like minimal later on.

So yeah, in the end, like most modern musical forms, something the black man invented was stolen by whitey, "cleaned up" and spat back out.

At the end of the day, whenever you go to a dance club, you're listening to music that had it's roots in the black gay subcultures of urban centers across the US. Which is funny since you'll see out-and-out racists and homophobes enjoying a night out to a dance music DJ.

Dan, that was a fucking spectacular summation of the origins of this music. Not kidding.

Dan, that was a fucking spectacular summation of the origins of this music. Not kidding.

yes...thank you for helping me out on that one....I didn't have the time today...

I also wanted to add that the actual dance music started long before with inspiration taken from genres like soul, jazz, and funk music and was later popularized by the underground scene much the way jazz was etc.

Hah, thanks!

The funny thing is, I got done reading (in Kindle form on the iPad no less) Frank Owen's Clubland, which in a nutshell, is the related stories of Chris Paciello and the Club Kids (Michael Alig, James St. James, etc...) of New York. Now, the Club Kids, by and large, were gay/bi/sexually ambiguous, but at their core, most of them were closeted racists in their own right. My iPad is in my bag and I'm too lazy to reference, but Alig was referenced as wanting to keep "house music" off of the flyers for parties, since it would attract gay black people, and supposedly in his mind, once black people showed up to a party, it was no longer cool and relevant.

I just found it ironic, that as a persecuted group, the Club Kids did have a racist streak in them a mile wide. In the same book, there's numerous testimonies and accounts of most of these kids being the stereotypical outcasts because of their orientation, and being harassed and abused because of it.

Yeah, we all crack jokes about hip-hop and Memorial Day, but I'd like to think most of us are pretty tolerant of all races and orientations (pause for laughter) but you will notice, in the dance music scene, a still-prevalent undercurrent of racism and homophobia, despite the roots of dance music being in the black, gay, and black/gay communities.

...dance music (as you know it) originates from the Black Culture and it's music....not Norwegian Vikings.

ROFL.