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Postby Michael^Heaven on 29 Jun 2015 10:28

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On point, I'm really into movies that tug at the heart, so to speak, currently. Films such as sports topics for some reason..'The Natural', 'Money Ball', 'Rudy', etc.
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Postby LeVeL on 29 Jun 2015 15:00

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TechJunkie wrote:Killing 77 people over a dog is disproportionate no matter how you look at it.


I thought that part was really far-fetched. It seems like the trend lately has shifted away from the bad guy being some type of Italian Mob Leader/Cartel Boss to now its a Russian Mob Leader or Islamist Terrorist Organization.

I wonder if in the next couple of years the bad guy will be a Right-Wing Militia Leader/Confederate Flag Waving Bigot who kills black people and immigrants. Instead of saying Allahu Akbar, the bad guy will say "I want my Country Back".
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Postby JMT on 29 Jun 2015 17:41

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JMT wrote:One is a movie and the other is a real life Muslim nut job actually murdering real life innocent tourists, so there's also that minor distinction.


If there were a movie about a Muslim avenger who went around killing 77 people without saying hello first then you would use it as part of your justification for hating all Muslims. But you watch this movie about a guy shooting 77 people in the heads for killing a dog and you cheer un-self-consciously. Sure, okay, that makes sense. (NOT)


It would depend. Explain the plot of your movie to me. If it's about a Muslim nut job massacring 77 tourists at a resort for "revenge", then no, I probably would not enjoy it. Furthermore, equating a fictional movie hit man shooting up a bunch of Russian mobsters to a real life Muslim nut job slaughtering tourists has to be one of more ridiculous, sick, even, arguments you have ever made.

Do you think I was standing up, literally "cheering" with applause? Ever heard of an anti-hero? Does liking The Sopranos or Breaking Bad as a television show mean one cheers for the criminal characters? Does thinking Das Boot is a good movie make one a traitor to America? Sounds like you are making moral judgments.
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Postby TechJunkie on 29 Jun 2015 17:53

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JMT wrote:Sounds like you are making moral judgments.


I'm just amazed that it's apparently not possible any more for a movie to be rated X for violence. If that movie didn't get an X rating then what movie ever could?

LeVeL wrote:I wonder if in the next couple of years the bad guy will be a Right-Wing Militia Leader/Confederate Flag Waving Bigot who kills black people and immigrants. Instead of saying Allahu Akbar, the bad guy will say "I want my Country Back".


Jack's gang in Breaking Bad.
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Postby pod on 29 Jun 2015 18:03

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X was phased out in the 1980s. It's now "NC-17".

And Level, where the hell have you been? There's been many a movie where a white supremacist has been the villain. Mississippi Burning, A Time To Kill, Black Snake Moan, Deliverance...

It's an old trope actually...
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Postby Michael^Heaven on 29 Jun 2015 18:04

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It's just a movie guys. Not much of a deep one at that. No reason to read into it any further.
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Postby LeVeL on 06 Jul 2015 09:08

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pod wrote:X was phased out in the 1980s. It's now "NC-17".

And Level, where the hell have you been? There's been many a movie where a white supremacist has been the villain. Mississippi Burning, A Time To Kill, Black Snake Moan, Deliverance...

It's an old trope actually...


I know.

I was wondering if it will come back, since all the rage nowadays are Islamic Terrorist/Russian Mobsters/Cartel Bosses
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Postby pod on 06 Jul 2015 13:16

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Some of the movies I named are recent.

Think about cinema, and most importantly, who is making these pieces.

California types love nothing more than to rip on people who live in the South, it's a trope old as Hollywood. Effete left coast elites versus the yokels up in the Ozarks.

They don't have to go to making the white supremacist/white racist the villain since it's done pretty much on a consistent basis.

My prediction is that the Muslim will be the villain for many years to come, with cameo appearances by the Chinese (subject to discretion based on whomever is bankrolling the studio this week) and occasionally the South American drug lords.
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Postby Michael^Heaven on 06 Jul 2015 18:37

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Good Night! What are California 'types'? Please discuss further.
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Postby pod on 06 Jul 2015 20:01

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Michael^Heaven wrote:Good Night! What are California 'types'? Please discuss further.


Effete leftist pseudo-intellectuals who think they know what is best for everyone else.

Just go hang around Berkeley and you'll get it in droves.
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